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I am thrilled to welcome Neil Ghosh to the Lead with Heart Podcast. Neil is the former CEO of SOS Children’s Village USA, Senior Advisor to the Ousri Family Foundation, and the author of Do More Good – a #1 new release praised by President Bill Clinton and featuring a foreword by the Dalai Lama.
Neil’s life’s work is centered on building bridges across divides with empathy, purpose, and action. In this episode, Neil shares how passion and compassion work together, why nonprofits must commit to listening and effective governance, and how we can all take daily actions—large or small—to create unity in a divided world.

In this episode:
- [03:08] Lessons from the private, public, and nonprofit sectors
- [04:36] The difference between passion and compassion and why you need both
- [10:00] Passion, purpose, and action
- [13:46] Leadership lessons from Malala and the Dalai Lama on courage and compassion
- [17:50] Why nonprofit governance and transparency matter more than ever
- [23:50] How to vet ethical and transparent nonprofits as a donor
- [29:02] Why unity doesn’t mean uniformity and how empathy sustains democracy
- [35:17] Combating loneliness in leadership through action and community
NOTEWORTHY QUOTES
“Passion and compassion must work together. One alone is not enough. You cannot just have compassion, you have to be really passionate about what you’re doing.” – Neil Ghosh
“There is a tendency for us to assume that we know what the problem is, and that is simply not true. We have to do a better job in asking and learning the local context instead of assuming that we know what the solutions may be.” – Neil Ghosh
“Unity does not mean uniformity.” – Neil Ghosh
RESOURCES
Do More Good: Inspiring Lessons from Extraordinary People by Neil Ghosh
Charity Vetting Tools: Charity Navigator, GuideStar, CharityWatch
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CONNECT WITH NEIL
LinkedIn: Neil Ghosh
Instagram: @neilghoshauthor
Website: https://www.neilghosh.org/
CONNECT WITH HALEY
Haley is a Certified Fund Raising Executive (CFRE), Certified Stress Management Coach, and Certified EmC train the trainer. She is the Founder of The Savvy Fundraiser, a nonprofit consulting and coaching business. She has worked in both small and large nonprofit teams in the human services, homelessness, and youth sectors; and she specializes in the EmC process, nonprofit leadership, board development, and fundraising. Haley is a passionate, impact-driven, experienced nonprofit professional whose mission is to empower, elevate and engage nonprofit leaders to build healthy, thriving organizations.
Instagram: @thesavvyfundraiser
LinkedIn: Haley Cooper, CFRE
Website: thesavvyfundraiser.com
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