I’m so excited to have Bekah Giacomantonio as my guest in this episode of Lead with Heart. She is a nonprofit dropout and the founder, host, and keeper of the Interdependence Incubator, a community for white women who crave healing and a space for us to practice freedom.
The time is NOW to start healing and making a collective change.
Join us today as we talk about healing and change at the personal, interpersonal, and systemic levels.

In this episode:
- [02:04] Bekah’s journey of freedom and healing
- [06:30] The pillars of the Interdependence Incubator
- [10:38] The 4-part mindfulness practice Bekah starts every session with
- [18:40] Creating a brave space container with community commitments
- [24:20] Speak from the “I” because your experience is enough
- [27:58] Be careful not to take up all the space just because you can
- [30:06] Why you should care about collective liberation and healing
NOTEWORTHY QUOTES
“If there’s one thing that I learned in my burnout and my lived experience is that [individual healing] is just not going to get us to collective liberation.”
“We may all be white women, but that term, that identity may mean something very different for the [other] people in the space.”
“I am worthy of being heard today as I am, exactly where I am in my own experience. And that does not mean that I am worthy of being heard in every single place that I exist. Like, not every table that I sit at needs to hear my exact experience.”
“No one is free until everybody is right? […] Black women have known this, they have been telling us there’s stuff we can do right now to start changing that and living into the collective liberation.”

RESOURCES
Bekah talked a little about her work at the phenomenal organization Yes World, which gathers groups of people and facilitates dialogue between them. To learn more about Yes World, go to yesworld.org.
CONNECT WITH BEKAH
Bekah Giacomantonio is a consultant, facilitator, and the host and keeper of the Interdependence Incubator. After a decade of working in the community as a Restorative and Transformative Justice facilitator and a few years living in Guatemala, Bekah became a nonprofit dropout, learned about and founded the Interdependence Incubator to lovingly gather white women who crave healing and create space for us to practice freedom. She envisions an interdependent world for everybody, and where everybody is free.
LinkedIn: Rebekah Giacomantonio
Website: bekahgiaco.com
CONNECT WITH HALEY
Haley is a Certified Fund Raising Executive (CFRE), Certified Stress Management Coach, and Certified EmC train the trainer. She is the Founder of The Savvy Fundraiser, a nonprofit consulting and coaching business. She has worked in both small and large nonprofit teams in the human services, homelessness, and youth sectors; and she specializes in the EmC process, nonprofit leadership, board development, and fundraising. Haley is a passionate, impact-driven, experienced nonprofit professional whose mission is to empower, elevate and engage nonprofit leaders to build healthy, thriving organizations.
Instagram: @thesavvyfundraiser
LinkedIn: Haley Cooper, CFRE
Website: thesavvyfundraiser.com
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